Obviously Premature Draft Evaluations: 2058
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(Taking a crack at this...)

Now that players have been drafted and slotted into everyone's system, let's go ahead and see who won, who lost, and who to look out for! This was a bit difficult considering how shallow the overall pool was, but maybe there are some hidden gems in the later rounds we missed!

**Disclaimer: Seeing as these are obviously premature, these evaluations do not account trades and traded picks. Feel free to disagree or make your own list. A little more trash talk on the forums may appease certain former owners.

The Winners

Jamaica: Being winners not only entirely by virtue of having more picks than six teams combined but also having solid selections at each spot. Quantity can also mean quality! 3B Bill Eave's speed may be a factor in his development as faster players generally seem to grade out better overall. Also, lefty pitchers will HATE seeing him in the batter's box, guaranteed. SPs Amole, Simms and Taylor all have bright spots, especially the former two - Amole looking like a strong option once he ditches the curveball, Simms from having a good sinker for his age and Taylor, even with some work needed on his control, having good raw stats. The remaining players may be bench options or possibly could be sleepers down the road. A strong draft overall.

Stockholm: 1B Mike Crane looks to be an absolute stud, far and away the best player at the draft and definitely worth #1 overall. SP Vince Douglas was highly coveted after he fell a bit, and he looks like a strong 3rd or 4th starter at least. Even with the third round skip, the Swedes capitalized on their draft position and are well on the way in their rebuild.

Panama: This was a hard third winner to select, but I gotta give it to the defending champs: considering their unenviable draft position, they made the most of it. SP Shinall grades out really well and was a solid pick in the late first round. RP Gary Bernard could be a future setup man or closer depending on his development, and him having more time to spend on his two pitches is a strong plus. RP Staller could be a sleeper selection in middle relief as his high initial control and strong sinker could make him a steal. Hopefully the Locks can position themselves to be in a better position in next year's draft and get the young superstars they need.

The Losers

Long Beach, London, Vancouver - No picks means an automatic inclusion in the loser's bracket.

Warsaw: I'm still scratching my head over the Charlie Norman pick. Hopefully being selected high empowers him to outperform his scouting report, though considering the other players (Bill Eave, Bobby Crockett, etc.) available at that point...the jury's out on this one. The other selections could be good in time, but the fourth overall pick could end up being a bust. You never know, though!

Cairo: To be honest, I struggled finding a third loser since this draft seemed to have only a few standouts and a lot of players in the middle. But 2B Rosenburg may have been a slight reach, especially considering the strong players taken afterwards (Mallette, Shinall, Sims, etc.). SP Mark Bones looks okay overall, but he's another older starter with a potential control issue. If nothing else, these selections can help them with bringing in the power bat cavalry for contending in the Barnes next season; but for future development, it's hard to say.

The Dark Horses

Havana: Most of this comes from SP Bobby Crockett falling to the fifth pick. If Moskiman had not fallen to me (Rio) Crockett would have been an easy pickup at #3. Crockett has a strong fastball-sinker combo that could really cause major issues for opposing batters, especially considering he's a strong groundball pitcher who grades out well in pure arm talent. 2B Abernathy and CF Knox could be solid picks at their positions in time.

Rio: I had my eye on Moskiman as soon as the pool came out, and once I had the chance of taking him I couldn't pass it up. For only being 19, he has an absolutely filthy sinkerball and seems to have good initial control. With some time he could be an absolute stud; and with the Capys not being near contention yet, he has time to develop and join fellow top SP prospect Al Link as the frontline starters of the club. As for the other picks, they could be okay in time, but are probably more bench players than anything. (Even though they were dealt for another prospect I'm not going to count that since the rules always exclude trades.)

New York: Jim looks to have won the with draft pick he had. Mac Robertson's slider grades out as plus or even plus-plus. Considering off-speed pitches don't necessarily need as much "oomph" in them, the lower arm strength and all right control could work out very well in the bullpen if the control improves enough. A later second-round pick doesn't need to be spectacular, and Robertson could be a steal in due time.
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I like the players I traded for instead of using my picks so I will be happy in the losers bracket!

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Really happy with how the draft played out for me. Hopefully putting all my eggs in one basket doesnt hurt me in the long run.
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Nice write up.  I agree with a lot of it, but gotta defend my guy 2B Ruben Rosenberg, who was really my pick.  Second base is rarely going to give you top notch raw hitting, but at the end of the day, everyone needs a 2B, and I think this kid is going to be a good one.  I like his speed and contact, seeing potential for mid/high 70s in both, and hoping for a 65 or so in power.  That might not win MVP awards, but would make him a well above average second baseman.
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Thanks Justin!  just looking at the title i was going to write 'thanks ryan' on impulse until i saw your forum avatar on the left half of the screen.
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(10-26-2019, 09:31 PM)Max Wrote: Nice write up.  I agree with a lot of it, but gotta defend my guy 2B Ruben Rosenberg, who was really my pick.  Second base is rarely going to give you top notch raw hitting, but at the end of the day, everyone needs a 2B, and I think this kid is going to be a good one.  I like his speed and contact, seeing potential for mid/high 70s in both, and hoping for a 65 or so in power.  That might not win MVP awards, but would make him a well above average second baseman.

While that might be true, that sounds like a late first or early second rounder to me. But to each his own  Smile
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Nice writeup Justin.  Thanks for covering for me during my travels.  I’ll comment on my version within the next couple of days.
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(10-27-2019, 08:52 PM)jtm0003 Wrote:
(10-26-2019, 09:31 PM)Max Wrote: Nice write up.  I agree with a lot of it, but gotta defend my guy 2B Ruben Rosenberg, who was really my pick.  Second base is rarely going to give you top notch raw hitting, but at the end of the day, everyone needs a 2B, and I think this kid is going to be a good one.  I like his speed and contact, seeing potential for mid/high 70s in both, and hoping for a 65 or so in power.  That might not win MVP awards, but would make him a well above average second baseman.

While that might be true, that sounds like a late first or early second rounder to me. But to each his own  Smile

If Rosenberg tops out at 75 CH, 65 PH, 75 SP, his aggregate hitting ratings would be 9th best in baseball among second basemen.  Of course that's a quick and dirty way to measure talent or impact, but it gives a sense of what the field is like at that position.

Getting the 9th best player at any position with a mid 1st rounder would be pretty lucky!  Crossing my fingers that is the outcome.

Code:
Pos    Name            Team    CH    PH    SP    TOTAL
2B    Cristante, Irv    ENT    90    58    91    239
2B    Day, Seth    LB    83    73    79    235
2B    Rivera, Willy    STO    80    68    83    231
2B    Yonemoto, HirokiVCM    84    70    70    224
2B    Gungaram, Alva    AMI    73    78    72    223
2B    Richmond, Frank    EDM    74    87    60    221
2B    Harkush, Denys    HK    84    59    77    220
2B    Samandi, Wael    ARG    69    80    71    220
2B    Rosenberg, Ruben?    75    65    75    215 ****
2B    Siner, Bill    PAN    91    63    60    214
2B    Dalby, Havard    SAPP    73    61    77    211
2B    Ardell, Ed    OAK    74    64    72    210
2B    Bliss, Bobby    NY    68    68    74    210
2B    Bogener, Eddie    PAN    91    53    64    208
2B    Benneteau, AdrienCALA    78    57    73    208
2B    Riley, Walter    HON    76    60    68    204
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(10-28-2019, 01:13 PM)Max Wrote: If Rosenberg tops out at 75 CH, 65 PH, 75 SP, his aggregate hitting ratings would be 9th best in baseball among second basemen.  Of course that's a quick and dirty way to measure talent or impact, but it gives a sense of what the field is like at that position.

Getting the 9th best player at any position with a mid 1st rounder would be pretty lucky!  Crossing my fingers that is the outcome.

Code:
Pos    Name            Team    CH    PH    SP    TOTAL
2B    Cristante, Irv    ENT    90    58    91    239
2B    Day, Seth    LB    83    73    79    235
2B    Rivera, Willy    STO    80    68    83    231
2B    Yonemoto, HirokiVCM    84    70    70    224
2B    Gungaram, Alva    AMI    73    78    72    223
2B    Richmond, Frank    EDM    74    87    60    221
2B    Harkush, Denys    HK    84    59    77    220
2B    Samandi, Wael    ARG    69    80    71    220
2B    Rosenberg, Ruben?    75    65    75    215 ****
2B    Siner, Bill    PAN    91    63    60    214
2B    Dalby, Havard    SAPP    73    61    77    211
2B    Ardell, Ed    OAK    74    64    72    210
2B    Bliss, Bobby    NY    68    68    74    210
2B    Bogener, Eddie    PAN    91    53    64    208
2B    Benneteau, AdrienCALA    78    57    73    208
2B    Riley, Walter    HON    76    60    68    204

Shouldn't you include fielding in that equation? If the field is that shallow offensively then defense should be a factor in differentiating tiers at the position, IMO.

That's why I picked 2B Mike Jennings in the supplemental draft this year. 88 fielding with 72 arm strength at the age of 28 with 2 years exp made him a no brainer. If I can't pick up a good bat at the position I'll take a good fielder, especially at the cost of essentially free.

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Pos  Name                    CH  PH  SP    GF  PL  vL  Hm  Sc  CL   Age Exp  B Slot    FA  AS  Qualified Positions
2B   Jennings, Mike          53  59  56    51  44  59  49  47  49    28   2  R  AAA    88  72  C-0
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(10-28-2019, 03:17 PM)jtm0003 Wrote:
(10-28-2019, 01:13 PM)Max Wrote: If Rosenberg tops out at 75 CH, 65 PH, 75 SP, his aggregate hitting ratings would be 9th best in baseball among second basemen.  Of course that's a quick and dirty way to measure talent or impact, but it gives a sense of what the field is like at that position.

Getting the 9th best player at any position with a mid 1st rounder would be pretty lucky!  Crossing my fingers that is the outcome.

Code:
Pos    Name            Team    CH    PH    SP    TOTAL
2B    Cristante, Irv    ENT    90    58    91    239
2B    Day, Seth    LB    83    73    79    235
2B    Rivera, Willy    STO    80    68    83    231
2B    Yonemoto, HirokiVCM    84    70    70    224
2B    Gungaram, Alva    AMI    73    78    72    223
2B    Richmond, Frank    EDM    74    87    60    221
2B    Harkush, Denys    HK    84    59    77    220
2B    Samandi, Wael    ARG    69    80    71    220
2B    Rosenberg, Ruben?    75    65    75    215 ****
2B    Siner, Bill    PAN    91    63    60    214
2B    Dalby, Havard    SAPP    73    61    77    211
2B    Ardell, Ed    OAK    74    64    72    210
2B    Bliss, Bobby    NY    68    68    74    210
2B    Bogener, Eddie    PAN    91    53    64    208
2B    Benneteau, AdrienCALA    78    57    73    208
2B    Riley, Walter    HON    76    60    68    204

Shouldn't you include fielding in that equation? If the field is that shallow offensively then defense should be a factor in differentiating tiers at the position, IMO.

That's why I picked 2B Mike Jennings in the supplemental draft this year. 88 fielding with 72 arm strength at the age of 28 with 2 years exp made him a no brainer. If I can't pick up a good bat at the position I'll take a good fielder, especially at the cost of essentially free.

Code:
Pos  Name                    CH  PH  SP    GF  PL  vL  Hm  Sc  CL   Age Exp  B Slot    FA  AS  Qualified Positions
2B   Jennings, Mike          53  59  56    51  44  59  49  47  49    28   2  R  AAA    88  72  C-0

Yeah sure a more complete model would include defense.  Rosenberg seems like he could be quite good there, too — he had the third best FA in the pool among 21 year old batters.
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